The how and why of “Sophia Thalatth”

19 02 2011

This post is an attempt to profile the following individual and collect information in one place for future reference by anyone who is forced to deal with them.

A strange personality has appeared on the ALL forums.  The current name used by the personality is “Sophia Thalatth” and she claims to be a “pan-human nationalist”, a strange and incomprehensible ideology that back flips time and time again as to what exactly it means or stands for.  As it turns out, this personality has earned themselves a page on

List of aliases:

Al Jones (Serpent)
Brad Smith
Brandon Orr
Daedra Morrigham
Amelia Johnson
Johann Sebastian Bot (forged)
Johann Sebastian Bot V.2 (forged)
j-s-bot (forged)
Ken McVay (forged)
Kneisel-Weasel Buster
Merlin McGregor
Ministry of Propaganda
Poopie Girl
Saint Jackoff
Sophia Serpent
Sophia Thalatth
Susan Cohen(forged)
White Patriot
Wonderbread Leotard
Xiphias Gladius (forged)



Forums operated:


List of forums where they are currently active:

Alliance of the Libertarian Left forums (banned for spam)
FreethoughtForums (banned for copyright violation)


MrAngry, has written on the ALL forums about the person’s previous political beliefs:

A brief summary of this political movement would be that it is predicated on the notion that the friction between the sexes is caused by intellectually incurious women, aka bimbos. The solution to this problem is to make bimbos into sex slaves. Girls would be tested for intelligence and intellectual curiosity beginning as young as age 10, and those deemed incorrigible bimbos will be made into sex slaves, to be abused and raped as Sovereignist citizens please. Yes, that means that in this system, girls as young as 10 would be forced into sadistic sexual enslavement.

Unfortunately, the Sovereignist Symposium website is gone now, but fortunately I have a couple quotes from sovvie’s old website which will serve as an introduction to her (former) political thought:

Sovereignism is a movement to rally an emergent nation, create a new State and utilize the State to bring the national vision fully to fruition. This vision includes a Weltanschauung (worldview), matrix of ideas and set of goals. The Sovereignist State shall ultimately be the essence of this particular vision in form. The State shall hold genuine sovereignty as its highest value and be governed by a Sovereign, thus Sovereignism.The central organization of this movement is known as the Sovereignist Syndicate. The Syndicate is also the protostructure of the State.
Central to Sovereignism is the realization that those worthy of citizenship — those with the potential to serve the nation in a dignified manner — can be truly saved only if the incorrigible are damned. Reconciliation of real and alleged opposites is a theme likewise central to Sovereignism, as is redemption for the worthy. These “3 R’s” — Realization, Reconciliation, and Redemption — point to core themes crucial to Sovereignist education.Realization: Sovereignists realize that the worst stereotypes of the female sex — sources of friction between the sexes — in reality ring unalterably true only for a subset of females, a particular type of female. Bimbo is a popular word to describe this type of female — albeit often misapplied to females who pretend to be bimbos, under intense brainwashing by antisocial elements, although they have the potential to rise above it. Sovereignists realize that incorrigible bimbos — those who will be bimbos no matter what the circumstances — are the eternal enemy of intellectually curious and self-respecting women. The bimbo is a painful wedge between ladies and gentlemen which, before being properly addressed, renders impossible the degree of unity between the sexes advocated by Sovereignism. Sovereignists realize that 1) bimbos exist and have existed significantly and recurrently from society to society and era to era with dire repercussions and 2) non-Sovereignist measures are neither optimal nor even adequate for decisively dealing with the bimbo problem.Reconciliation: Therefore, in order to reconcile worthy women and men and otherwise serve the national good, the bimbo problem must be decisively solved. How? By instituting the sexual enslavement of bimbos, honestly and legally, and utilizing this institution as a sophisticated outlet for the good of society. This solution will not be feasible until after the Sovereignist State has attained full sovereignty and signed any necessary agreements with other sovereign powers.Redemption: By damning the bimbo to bondage — death would be too merciful a fate — the Sovereignist State will bring salvation to women and men of dignity. Citizen women will be liberated from pressure to spread their legs for sex, especially the casual and promiscuous intercourse which tends to be so dreadfully damaging to the female psyche. They will be optimally protected from rape and sexual harassment. They will be able to keep their bodies clean, sanctified and purified. They will be able to righteously abuse and degrade bimbos, further uplifting and glorifying their own figurative souls in the process. Their feminine pride shall be properly channeled so that it can best serve the nation. Bimbos will no longer be able to reduce men to drooling simpletons — himbos. The optimal sexual outlet will be available and readily accessible — bimbos kept in chains and cuffs and collars rather than allowed to wreak havoc upon society.

Sound good?  Not really.  Mr Angry also provides references where the person in question has acted as an advocate for this deranged political system (1, 2, 3).

(Note: This MrAngry should not be confused with the MrAngry who owns and runs the MootSF forums.  They are two separate people)

Characteristic behaviour

The person’s behaviour is characterised by overuse of science or scientific literature in a attempt to support their highly offensive and reactionary positions.  While claiming to be an “anti-racist” the person also insists upon using derogatory and imposed terms for ethnic minorities.  Anyone who disagrees or calls out these facts and contradictions is dismissed or abused with a string of invective in an attempt to dodge the issue.  Another identifying feature of their behaviour is a continued emphasis and reliance on supposed close friends or associates who are “highly intelligent” and agree with everything they has been arguing.  It is doubtful whether these persons exist and it is far more likely they are sock puppets used to justify and support a clearly racist position.  Often quote chat logs are quoted in order to prove existence of these persons, though it is impossible to verify whether these are real.  It is suggested that they might be fake.

The person makes numerous claims about their identity.  They claim to have formerly been a male prostitute, to be transgender, to have been raped and to have survived stage 4 brain cancer.  While knowledge of the person and their past leads me to question the authenticity, it is impossible to know either way.  The relevance to this profile comes as the person’s behaviour appears to indicate one of two possibilities; either they are a very committed troll and these facts are being used to illicit sympathy and create confusion, or they are being genuine about their past, and they are an individual who has suffered considerable amounts of pain and abuse.  However, in the event that the latter is true, it has no bearing on the credibility, gravity and acceptibility of what they are arguing as “truth”.

If indeed they are a troll, their use of these labels is insulting to all those who have experienced such things in life.

In the past the person has been known to disrupt discussions and communications by copying a critic’s account name and posting questionable material under that name (hence the “forged” accounts in the list).  Additionally, a confidential source has told of how web pages have been set up to publish personal details about an individual to the world.  These websites contain quotes out of context to defame the the target.

Their personality is illustrated in the following quote, with added emphasis:

On the other hand, voluntary eugenics is a very rational concept which has no necessary association with Nazism, or even the right wing at all. Yet I was ganged up upon[sic] for exploring the idea ‘out loud’. That is crazy. Fortunately I’ve got associates smarter and more logical than you guys who are convincing me not to give up so easily in that regard. Despite your pretensions of being anti-Establishment, to a good extent, you guys ARE the Establishment, or at least blindly submissive to taboos set by it and fanatically loyal to its most powerful ruling caste which is comprised of white Jews. That’s why I was ganged up upon for even mentioning Jewish power and the double standards around Jews.

With voluntary eugenics we can pay many people with low IQs to receive humane vasectomies, tubal ligations, etc. This is not cruel; irresponsible overpopulation is what is cruel and the Blacks suffer most of all. We can create dating and relationship networks for high IQ people. We can encourage high IQ Nigerians in diaspora to return home and help renew their country. Importantly, we can come to terms with the fact that large numbers of black Africans simply lack the cognitive profile to effectively adapt to high-tech urban civilization. We need to establish large nature preserves where they can move and revert to the unashamedly primitive way of life that comes far more naturally to them. We can also set up means for liberal-minded white couples to adopt as minors blacks who simply do not fit into either the perpetually-failing attempts at black urban civilization or a traditional way of life. (source)

Distribution of sexually suggestive images of young girls

Information has been provided by Mr Angry who has wrote that the person seems to have had possession of and distributed sexually suggestive pictures of young girls.  This claim cannot be substantiated.  The forum on which they appeared no longer exists, however Mr Angry points out the current forums run by the person contains a subforum “for the appreciation of young models”, which is only accessible to registered members.

The person claims their brain tumour caused their past promotion pedophilia.

Distribution of these images combined with the person’s history of advocating the sexual slavery of young girls constitutes a political act which I oppose.

Added to this is the recent post by the personality which argues for policy changes within the state in the name of combating age discrimination, essentially appropriating rhetoric for their own ends.  The post itself amounts to a desire and stated political goal to create and institutionalise pedophile rings.  They write:

Roll back and peel away government red tape around adoption. In order to lessen the appeal of child pornography and prostitution to the extent that they reduce sexual activity into a brief commercial transaction, which in turn proves less fulfilling than sexuality in the context of a strong relationship, allow people to freely associate to form healthy sexual relationships – untrammeled by ageist restrictions – such as through adoption networks, swingers’ groups, and sex clubs. For example, a couple should be able to adopt a child partly for sexual reasons. Although this idea has been criticized even by some CL activists, the case has never been made that this form of adoption would have to be any more harmful to a child than entirely non-sexual adoption. To the contrary, there is no scientific or empirical basis to believe that this must be so. Even under the status quo, it is legal to raise a child to abstain from sex, but not to enjoy sex. This indicates a pervasive anti-sex bias under the status quo, which has no rational or scientific basis.


These quotes are provided to illustrate the types of arguments presented and to record their existence into the future.

It’s not without reason that black and brown people are sneaking into white countries, not white people into black and brown countries. We are better at building and maintaining advanced industrial civilizations which are relatively free and in which people are treated with relative fairness. In a sense, our race is indeed superior, and that is exactly why real racism is not an option! (source)

The following list of statements taken from this thread.


One problem is that to believe Australian Abos are the same as us, you’ve got to make yourself retarded, no matter how smart you are to begin with. They have smaller brains with fewer fissures and less developed frontal lobes. They’ve evolved differently. To say otherwise, you’ve got to lie, big time. What’s good about that? It’s bullshit.

Now the racism here is pretty obvious.  Not only is “Abos” a derogatory term, but the use of scientific and evolutionary language attempts to validate, legitimise and justify outright racism.


For all the evolutionary distance between us, black people are human beings.

Pretty much an argument reminiscent of the “Great chain of being” pseudo-scientific bs of early last century which lead to massacres of Indigenous populations around the world, particularly in Australia.


I’m not racist ’cause I don’t hate anyone. I actually love black people. But…

“I’m not racist, but…” arguments are racist. Especially when followed by the phrase, “they are much more likely to commit violent crime” which perpetuates more racist myths.


Someone with that IQ wouldn’t be able to hang in a university unless the university lowered standards big time.

Continued perpetuation of debunked race IQ theories, plus assertion that “blacks” shouldn’t even bother with university education, plus promoting connection between being “black” and violent crime.


[NAME REDACTED] February 17 at 8:10am Report
Aww ur worried about me! Yea, I kinda figured it had something to do with science and why they’re so violent. Ilk be careful, hopefully all I have to do is stay to my self. I’m more worried Bout my car than anything. And hopefully I can see u soon. I’m thinking around spring or summer….Awww, I miss u!
Sent via Facebook Mobile

Use of messages attributed to anonymous sources to try and reinforce their racism. Pity, if they do in fact exist, one representative of a minority or a community does not speak for all.


I’m sure you notice that whites and asians are nerdier and more quiet and usually not as good of dancers. But at the same time, they’re usually better at math.

Continued perpetuation of racial stereotypes and racial IQ theories, combined with an insistence that in order to demonstrate intellect and intelligence, a person must conform to standard “white” tests of intelligence and success (Nobel prizes, admission to CalTech, ability to do math).


No. I really do love black people. It’s not that “some of my friends are black,” but rather most of my friends are either black or otherwise of non-European extraction.

I’m not racist! I have black friends!


It means that in general, majority black schools will have more violence but (excepting some areas of athletics and music).

Continued perpetuation of racial stereotypes.


I mentioned in the conversation how she was complaining about lighter-skinned black women on a bus. Jada is rather dark-skinned for an African-American (who average about 20% Europid admixture iirc).

Apparent use of and perpetuation of racial mixture categories from previous centuries where “blackness” and “whiteness” was measured, weighed down the last drop of black blood.


I think blacks are human beings, but likely more primitive humans: closer to our common ancestors, with a higher index of attributes classified by evo biologists as primitive…


OTOH, some of the more primitive population groups of today and recent history bear striking similarities to the bonobo. One example would be the genitalia of Hottentot women.

Once again compares entire African ethnic groups to primates in order to further justify their racism. Secondly, use of the word “Hottentot” is considered derogatory. The ethnic group prefer to be called the Khoikhoi. Even more so when you consider that 10,000 people of a Khoikhoi group, the Namaqua, were massacred in a struggle against German colonists and the East India Company, the sort of racial theories promoted by the person probably played an important role in justifying the actions of the perpetrators.

It should also be noted that photos were posed of a Bonobo and a sketch of an African Khoikhoi woman in order to draw a comparison between their genitals to suggest a genetic link, while a photo of an African woman with a “receding hairline” was compared to a photo of a Orangutan for the same purpose.  This is extremely racist and extremely offensive.


Except it’s empirically TRUE that they are much more likely to commit violent crime. It’s your racist myth that black people are just like white people, rather than their own unique race, which harms black people more than anyone. Over 90% of the victims of black violence are other blacks. This is confirmed by numerous angles. By denying the reality of black violence you help to perpetuate needless suffering and death.


Note: I will be updating this list with more information on “Sophia Thalatth” as an entity or with more quotes as the information becomes available.

Last Updated: 22 May 2011


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